Sunday, December 29, 2013

Letter to Ordain Women

I have a few questions for your organizations.
Full-time missionary work is a priesthood responsibility and your organization seeks to have women ordained to that priesthood.
What I'm curious about is this. Do you think that latter day saint girls should be expected to serve full time missions like the young men are? If so, do you view an lds girl who doesn't serve a mission the same way you would view an lds boy who does not serve a mission? Do you believe that the mission duration for young women needs to be 24 months like it is for the young men?
 A few minutes later this is what they said.

This organization has many returned missionaries (men and women) who support the cause, and you are welcome to read their profiles and hear for yourself what they have to say!
They completely did not answer my question. Earlier this year I had a chance to ask congressmen Matheson a question about the debt ceiling and the government shutdown and he didn't really answer my question either but he at least addressed the issue. Whereas the Ordain Women organization said basically nothing. At least not yet.

Perhaps they are dodging the question because they don't have a good answer. Perhaps the feel this question highlights the error of their cause. But I think more likely than not they did not answer the question because whoever sits at the computer and answers the emails is not really interested in answering questions. Maybe said person doesn't have discretion to speak for the organization. Which weird because that's exactly what they are assigned to do. The best I can hope for is that someone in the organization will take later take a look at the question.

What I find to be odd is that they seemed to think it was important that they respond to my email quickly, but they didn't seem to think that it was important that they answer my question.

Another possibility is that person who sent that email known that there is a profile on their website that answers my question perfectly and they want me to find the answer for myself through those means.

Theres other things I'd like to ask them but I don't know if they'll bother to answer.

Thursday, December 26, 2013

Sochi. I won't be able to attend your wedding because that's when my book club is meeting.

This last week the Whitehouse announced that President Obama and Vice President Biden will not be attending the Olympics in Russia next year because apparently they are to busy.

I don't think this is the real reason.


  1. I'm pretty sure he attended the Vancouver Olympics. When the Economy was more rough than it is now.
  2. It's not like he forgot that the Olympics were coming up or that he didn't know.
  3. The President has a lot of control over his schedule. The whitehouse website has a page that shows the President's schedule. http://www.whitehouse.gov/schedule/president/ If you were to track it during the Sochi games and compare his schedule with the time of the Vancouver games (I don't know if the website goes that far back) I would be surprised if there was much of a difference.
  4. He especially has that much control for accommodating something that has been scheduled for about 7 years.
  5. I've never seen an episode of The West Wing where President Bartlett was on Air Force 1 and not discussing policy.
Not to long ago Russia passed a law preventing the adoption of their children by families from the United States. That itself might not be a crisis, but I think it highlights the fact that our relations with Russia are a little bit rough. Not as bad as they were a few decades ago, but to good either. This is very frightening to me. 

Attending the games certainly isn't a magic wand that would cure our relations, but I think it would be a good gesture.

I don't think boycotting the Olympics is inherently bad but I'm not sure that Russia has hit the ceiling of what can be tolerated. One of the cliches I've heard of the Olympics is that we are supposed to look past certain things. From what I've heard I think boycott efforts for Sochi's Olympics seem to be gaining more traction than the boycotts for Beijing's. The logic doesn't add up in my mind. 


Friday, December 20, 2013

Could the Legalization of Gay Marriage help the GOP?

This past week court rulings legalized same-sex marriage in both New Mexico and Utah. The ruling applied to Utah will almost certainly be appealed.

Support for same-sex marriage has been growing and I don't think the trend is likely to reverse. Will it keep growing to the point where it is generally accepted or will it plateau? I'm not sure. But I would estimate that support is somewhere from 53-54%. People who are in that groups will have one more reason to not vote for many republicans. Very few republicans can win the vote of people who identify themselves as gay.

But what if court rulings lead to the legalization of same-sex marriage in all 50 states then it might take the issue off of the table. Meaning that if Same-Sex Marriage was legal in the United States and there was nothing that a legislative acts could do about it than it may do away with a reason to vote against the GOP. A Republican candidate for President might get about 22% of the gay vote. But the common tendency of courts is to rule in favor of same-sex marriage. If there was a definitive court ruling legalizing gay marriage and it was believed that it wasn't going to go away than perhaps the GOP would do better with those who support the gay rights movement.

Just some thoughts.

Friday, November 29, 2013

Appendage to my thoughts on the nuclear option

This might sound a little goofy but I thought of an analogy relating to the nuclear deal.

Let's compare the Senate to a married couple. How many marriages are there were the two parties disagree on important sensitive topics. Quite a few. How many family counselors would suggest that one try to get around their partner rather than compromise. None. In fact people doing that is the reason that we have family counselors. In a successful marriage the two involved will discuss the issue in a civil manner and then meet somewhere in the middle. It appears to me that Harry Reid doesn't want to do that. In the week following Chris Christie's reelection he said that what happens in New Jersey is they discuss an issue, argue about it, come to an agreement, and then move on. The Senate democrats seem to have given up. And I don't anticipate that republican house majority is going to be easier to get along with as a result of it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4e1-d_Pd3w


Monday, November 25, 2013

Thoughts on the Senate's Nuclear Option

 Harry Reid led the senate to invoking the nuclear option. From what I understand this means that they voted to give themselves more power. I'm not happy about this.

It seems that the democrats want to figure out how to get around the republicans rather than figure out how to get along with them. What else makes this case is the health care reform. They may have met in a room with republicans and opened their mouths and talked about health care but in my perception that was sort of fake. It seems that back then rather than figure out a way to get along with the republicans to pass health reform they wanted to figure out a way to get around them by passing the bill through the back door, namely reconciliation.

I think what the democrats are forgetting is that the republicans could very well come back into power in the next few years and that nuclear option will be just as readily available to them.

People are always frustrated that congress can't get much done. This sounds weird but I sort of think that that's kind of a good thing. There are 50 states in the USA and they are very different. I'm not sure that 51 senators is justification to pass federal legislation. I'm a believer in states' rights. People want to look to Washington to solve problems. I think people need to get into the habit of looking to places like Boston, Austin, Sacramento, Salt Lake City, Bismark, Tallahassee, etc.

However, appointments of federal judges is by definition not a state issue. Democrats want people to think that republicans are too stubborn to get anyone appointed. Maybe the problem is that the democrats are too stubborn. Among Justices who are serving or recently have served on the Supreme Court there are some who received over 80 yea votes. These ones were appointed by Presidents Reagen and Clinton. Presidents Bush 43 and Obama have both appointed 2 justices that do not fit this description. But I think it's proven that the senate can get along on these things. But it seems that they don't want to.

Wednesday, October 9, 2013

New York City and the San Francisco bridge

Recently I saw the movie Man of Steel. Not my favorite superhero movie but I enjoyed it. Towards the end of the movie Superman and his Kripton rivals are duking in out in New York City. This is also quite similar to how The Avengers ended.

What occurred to me is that the fight scenes in both of these movies are similar to the September 11 terrorists attacks. Both destroyed a bunch of buildings, both were in New York City, and both could be considered Terrorist attacks from foreign enemies..

So why do we enjoy watching these movies. When the first tower was attacked on 9/11 if anyone felt anything other than sadness it was confusion. I've heard people tell stories hearing it on the radio and thinking "what, a plane flew into a building?" Others I heard saw it on the news and thought it was movie. After the second tower was attacked it was clear that it was a terrorist attack rather than an accident or hoax.

When watching superhero movies we see the villains attacking several building in NYC or the San Francisco and the movie never confirms that they're empty. When Superman's enemy kryoptonians knock over a building we don't normally think of think of any of the people inside, the people who just lost a spouse or parent, the damage to the environment, or economy.

I don't wish to condemn anyone who enjoyed these movies. But there seems to be an interesting paradox or fallacy at hand.

Tuesday, October 8, 2013

Ground Zero revisited

Well a few years ago I made a post about ground zero. Well the mosque or cultural center or whatever it was ended up not being built in that location. I feel I need to post about it because I've heard some stuff about it since then that I don't know if I can believe.

First of all. I'm not sure if it actually was a mosque or just a cultural or recreation center.

One thing I also heard that I think is false is that Obama wanted to build it. I've heard this a few times and I don't think that it's true. If I remember Obama is on the record as saying that Muslims have the right to build their building. The response from some was that he wanted to build the project. (This is where some ignorant conservatives must have stopped paying attention) The next response was, "no, he didn't say that he supported it, he just said that they have the right to build it." (This is where some not so ignorant people kept paying attention) And then the president real feelings about the project were left ambiguous. Even Sarah Palin acknowledged the right of the Muslim community to build the building but nobody said she was supporting the project.

I imagine what happened was Obama was in the white house discussing the issue with a few of his staff members and he didn't support the project but also didn't want to offend the Muslim population. And I think the decision they arrived at was for him to make some simple commentary on the first amendment but not express his real feelings but to give the impression that he did. Thus leaving the issue ambiguous.

I've also heard that Obama wants a universal coinage for North America. I've heard that he wants to change the constitution for a third term. And I think I've heard some other stuff that is just false but some people will believe. And that's how the world is.

Friday, October 4, 2013

Female Suspect

These are the words that I saw on a few news articles relating to this weeks's shooting by the United States capital this week. What comes across to me as interesting is that the articles felt that sense the suspect is female, it must be clarified that she is female. So apparently our society feels that the word suspect is more masculine than feminine. Which is probably because big crimes such as this are committed more frequently by men.

Also consider this. Is it as common to hear someone revering somebody else as being a good woman.  I feel that it is a sort of a noble honor to be referred to a good man but there doesn't seem to be an equivalent honor for women. It seems to me that being good is more common or impressive or unusual for men than it is for women. Which very well could be true.

That's me thoughts of today

One more thing.

I saw something on the news about Congress applauding the police officer who was injured in capturing the suspect. I am glad that the District of Columbia has brave police officers who will do their duty at large sacrifice. I am sad that that is one of the only things congress can agree on. The government has been shutdown for four days and my life has been essentially the same. All though that is not the case for Federal government employees who have a hard time making ends meet. Likewise for anyone who needs to get a social security card or passport for any number of important reasons.

Monday, September 30, 2013

My letter to Senator Lee regarding the defunding of Obamacare

Dear Senator Lee.

I am a college student from Provo Utah studying Actuarial Science. For years I've taken interest in political and economic issues. I'm registered to vote as independent but I'm generally conservative and I voted for you and Congressmen Chaffetz in the 2010 midterms. I was little hesitant to do so however because both of you are considered members of the TEA Party movement which at the time I wasn't sure I could embrace.

This past week Senator Cruz of Texas made the news with a 21 hour speech fighting Obamacare. From what I've read in the news you supported him in his speech. I read an article in the Huffington Post (which admittedly might lean left) describing you two as the odd men out in the senate. Even among the Republicans.

To see the news headlines this week saying such things as "Ted Cruz gives marathon speech against Obamacare," or "house republicans move towards shutdown," make me think of two words, "Partisan gridlock."

The Affordable Care Act is often referred to as "Obamacare." For this reason everyone connects it President Obama and the Democrats. When I see the republicans trying to attack Obamacare it comes across of very partisan. The point of my letter is not that the GOP should accept defeat on Obamacare or that some parts of the law may be beneficial. Instead I'm writing to tell you that I believe that the GOP needs to be the party of financial responsibility rather than the party of reduce funding for everything with Obama's name on it.

I truthfully don't believe that Obamacare is the enemy. I think the enemy is anything financially irresponsible. In the past few years since the GOP became the house majority they have tried to slow down the growth of the debt ceiling. I believe that this was partially out of a desire to but heads with the democrats or brand them as financially irresponsible but I also believe that it was the result of politicians deciding that the national debt was way too large and that we simply just can't let it grow without trying to slow it down. I think that was a few steps in the right direction but now I'm not sure if the republicans are still walking that path.

For example. If the republicans want to lower funding for 10 different provisions of Obamacare that makes them come across to me as very partisan and poor political sportsmanship. (By that I mean not willing to accept defeat) If the republicans want to attack 30 different provisions of irresponsible spending and 7 or 8 of them just so happen to be in Obamacare then I would feel that they are more concerned about America then about the status of their party or of the other party. 

My mom recently attended the Utah County GOP convention. She said she wasn't won over so much by what you said about gun rights but she thought it was interesting that congressmen Chaffetz said that he was investigating why the government had large surplus of ammunition when at the same the border patrol doesn't have enough ammo to practice with. During one of the Presidential debates Governor Romney said that his rule of thumb would be that for every spending question he would ask himself, "is this so important that we need to borrow money from China to pay for it?" I'm sure you agree with that Obamacare doesn't make the mark and you may even be able to prove that it is hurting the economy but I believe that what's in America's interests is to look at the larger picture and not just one law.



Tuesday, July 30, 2013

Wear pants to church day

I know that Wear pants to church day was a long time ago but I wasn't blogging back then so I'll write something about it now.

My first thought is disapproval. Such cultures and traditions might not be eternal but in this day and age they are in place. However I  believe if a women wants to follow this there is probably not anything that anybody can or should do about it. She should just be treated like any other member and if treated with love hopefully she will decide to make the right decision. The ward council and any other member has got bigger things to deal with than a women wearing pants. I think this might be a problem where ignoring it is a more practical solution than solving it. Doctrine and Covenants 46 says that nonmembers and even those who have received church discipline should be welcome in church meetings. I believe this means not just allowing them inside but also being happy of the fact that they're with you in church. This may not extend to a woman showing her breast but someone who is disfellowshipped is to be welcomed into church meetings why should we be more stingy with a women who is wearing pants.

The modesty wearing pants to church

When we think of modesty in church discussion what normally comes to mind is women who don't cover enough of their skin. Wear pants to church day is obviously not immodest in this sense but there is more to modesty than just that.

Here is one official church definition of modesty

Modesty is an attitude of propriety and decency in dress, grooming, language, and behavior. If we are modest, we do not draw undue attention to ourselves. Instead, we seek to “glorify God in [our] body, and in [our] spirit” (—See True to the Faith (2004), 106-8; emphasis added)

Could there be a day when wearing pants to church for women was not considered to be differing from the norm. Perhaps, but this is not that day and that is the reason for wear pants to church day. I believe that wearing pants to church is immodest in the sense that the women participating are trying to draw undue attention to themselves.

A recent article in the church's youth magazine, the new era, addressed the question of how to know what counts as an extreme hair style. I'll include the entire response because it's in the spirit of what I'm trying to say.

What is considered extreme may vary from culture to culture and time to time, so it would be difficult to say exactly what hairstyles are too extreme for everyone. So how do you know whether a hairstyle is “extreme”? Ask yourself, “Why am I doing this?” If you’ve gone out of your way to give yourself unusual hair color(s), length(s), and styling solely for the purpose of “making a statement” or getting attention, then you may have gone to the “extreme” referred to in For the Strength of Youth. 

Do Church leaders ask you to avoid extremes just because they want you to look plain and ordinary, without any style or personality? Of course not. They’ve given this counsel because your appearance says something about you. “Through your dress and appearance, you can show that you know how precious your body is. You can show that you are a disciple of Jesus Christ.” Extreme hairstyles might overshadow this message and send a more worldly message about you.
(https://www.lds.org/new-era/2013/03/to-the-point?lang=eng; Emphasis added) 
Sacrament Meeting

During high school I was in the pit orchestra for the school's production of Pirates of Penzance. The uniform required black pants and a black shirt. Because a black shirt was new and cool to me I decided to wear it to church one week. Looking back I wish I hadn't. In this phase of life I was often taking some part of the sacrament ordinance. I was not necessarily trying to make a statement. I was just trying to do something new and cool. I don't know if anyone remembers that meeting but the black shirt does distract from the sacrament. It is true that there is no scripture or church policy saying the ordinance does not work. the officiator is not wearing a white shirt but the sacrament meeting (especially the sacrament) is supposed to draw attention to only Christ and his Atonement.

Related. There is technically no such thing as a missionary farewell or homecoming meeting. It is just a sacrament with a departing or returning misssionary speaking. My understanding for this is that it's because a "missionary farewell meeting" distracts from the saviour who's meeting it is.

From Churchhandbook 2, 18.2.2

The bishopric usually invites missionaries to speak in sacrament meeting just before they depart and when they return (see Handbook 1, 4.8.1 and 4.10.3). The bishopric makes it clear that this is a regular sacrament meeting and is not to be a missionary farewell or homecoming. The bishopric plans and conducts these meetings. Family members and friends of the missionary are not invited to speak. However, other departing or returning missionaries or other members may be invited to speak.
Is it appropriate to use church meetings to make a statement? The three hour church block isn't really about us and the unique opinions we wish to express. It's about the the saviour and his teachings.

What are they trying to say

I'm curious about what these mormon feminists are trying to say. I think there are very few mormon feminists who want the church to give them the priesthood. I think if a mormon wants to describe herself as a feminist then she likely doesn't know or appreciate the value of womanhood in the church. A really good example of the value of women comes from a talk Elder Cook of the quorumn of the twelve gave in Aprill 2011

Several years ago I attended a stake conference in Tonga. Sunday morning the three front rows of the chapel were filled with men between 26 and 35 years of age. I assumed they were a men’s choir. But when the business of the conference was conducted, each of these men, 63 in total, stood up as their names were read and were sustained for ordination to the Melchizedek Priesthood. I was both pleased and stunned.
After the session I asked President Mateaki, the stake president, how this miracle had been accomplished. He told me that in a stake council meeting reactivation was being discussed. His stake Relief Society president, Sister Leinata Va’enuku, asked if it would be appropriate for her to say something. As she spoke, the Spirit confirmed to the president that what she was suggesting was true. She explained that there were large numbers of wonderful young men in their late 20s and 30s in their stake who had not served missions. She said many of them knew they had disappointed bishops and priesthood leaders who had strongly encouraged them to serve a mission, and they now felt like second-class members of the Church. She pointed out that these young men were beyond missionary age. She expressed her love and concern for them. She explained that all of the saving ordinances were still available to them and the focus should be on priesthood ordinations and the ordinances of the temple. She noted that while some of these young men were still single, the majority of them had married wonderful women—some active, some inactive, and some not members.
After thorough discussion in the stake council, it was decided that the men of the priesthood and the women of the Relief Society would reach out to rescue these men and their wives, while the bishops spent more of their time with the young men and young women in the wards. Those involved in the rescue focused primarily on preparing them for the priesthood, eternal marriage, and the saving ordinances of the temple. During the next two years, almost all of the 63 men who had been sustained to the Melchizedek Priesthood at the conference I attended were endowed in the temple and had their spouses sealed to them. This account is but one example of how critical our sisters are in the work of salvation in our wards and stakes and how they facilitate revelation, especially in family and Church councils.
I never met the people involved in this story but what I see is a Stake President understands the vital role women can play and was humble enough to find help from his relief society president and to implement her inspired idea. I believe he understood that his position was a position of service to others and that he relied the assistance of others, men and women. The relief society president I believe was a women who also knew she was in a position of service (including inderect service to men) and that the stake president was the presideing priesthood authority. This story shows humily. It shows that there are differences between men and women. It says that women are important. It shows the men have the priesthood which includes the authority to make the decisions directing the work of the stake.

The bigger problem at hand

I think the biggest problem at hand is not that some women showed up to church on Dec 16th and were wearing pants. The biggest problem might not even be the message these women are trying to promote. I think the bigger problem is whatever causes some women to feel this way. In 2005 Elder Oaks of the quorumn of the twelve gave a talk about how the priesthood functions differently in the church than in the family. Entitled Priesthood Authority in the Family and in the Church This talk may help us understand where some feminist feelings originate.

About this same time, [the time his mother became a widow] we had a neighbor who dominated and sometimes abused his wife. He roared like a lion, and she cowered like a lamb. When they walked to church, she always walked a few steps behind him. That made my mother mad. She was a strong woman who would not accept such domination, and she was angry to see another woman abused in that way. I think of her reaction whenever I see men misusing their authority to gratify their pride or exercise control or compulsion upon their wives in any degree of unrighteousness (see D&C 121:37).
I have also seen some faithful women who misunderstand how priesthood authority functions. Mindful of their partnership relationship with their husband in the family, some wives have sought to extend that relationship to their husband’s priesthood calling, such as bishop or mission president. In contrast, some single women who have been abused by men (such as in a divorce) mistakenly confuse the priesthood with male abuse and become suspicious of any priesthood authority. A person who has had a bad experience with a particular electrical appliance should not forego using the power of electricity.
Unrighteous dominion or verbal or physical abuse are all much bigger problems than a woman wearing pants to church. There is an idea out there that in a dispute between a man and his wife that if they are in a draw the husband wins because he has the priesthood. This idea is false. For a good example of this teaching see Elder Larry Y. Wilson's general conference talk. I've known good men who have either made this mistake or almost made it. This is where forgiveness comes in.

Differences between men and women can be blown out of proportion but they are not trivial things that do not matter. A man does not rule over his wife and a wife does not rule over her husband. However a man does preside over his wife but a woman does not preside over her husband. The Lord himself acknowledges that there are differences in section 83 of the Doctrine and Covenants verse 2 which reads  

 Women have claim on their husbands for their maintenance, until their husbands are taken; and if they are not found transgressors they shall have fellowship in the church.
Verse 4 of the same section acknowledges some similarities

All children have claim upon their parents for their maintenance until they are of age.

No feminist has ever complained about verse 2 of this scripture.